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Showing posts with label Series: Etrian Odyssey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Series: Etrian Odyssey. Show all posts

Thursday, August 29, 2024

Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard

 The sequel to Etrian Odyssey, and while Kazuya Niino had no involvement (opting instead to work on the first entry of the competing series 7th Dragon), it follows the same basic format - building a party, traversing a grid-based dungeon and constructing your own maps on the touch screen.  In addition to all the classes from the first game returning, three new ones are introduced - the Gunner serves as a strong ranged attacker, the War Magus as something of a "Red Mage" with healing, fighting and support abilities, and the Beast as a party-protecting animal companion.  Skill sets were tweaked seemingly as an attempt to address the awkward balance of the first game, but they severely overcorrected in this regard - the underpowered classes from the first Etrian Odyssey are now ridiculously strong while all the returning ones are nerfed, becoming average at best.  Case in point, the Ronin and Dark Hunter are now absurdly powerful damage dealers, while the lowly Hexer becomes the single most broken class in the entire series.  Inversely, the Landsknecht, Survivalist, Protector, and Medic have their skills and damage potential severely nerfed while the Troubadour and Alchemist are now almost entirely useless.  It puts the player in a strange place - the party they used in the first game is now almost entirely obsolete while all the classes they probably ignored now get the spotlight.  Some other questionable tweaks are made too; gathering skills are nerfed, topping off at level 5 and only allowing one use per skill per day, and when gathering you have a chance to randomly be attacked by a powerful monster, making it a risky enterprise.  FOEs no longer give experience, which eliminates your primary means of quick re-leveling from the first game.  The Boost mechanic, rather than adding five extra levels to whatever skill you use that turn, is now more of a "limit break" that varies by class - usually a powerful attack or a temporary party buff.  Another interesting, if underutilized addition, is that you can import your guild from the previous game, which changes a few story events and allows you to import the Town Medal or Town Crown if you earned it there (albeit with a major nerf to its stats so it's only really useful in the early game).  Etrian Odyssey II is a pretty standard sequel, though its lackluster balancing and minimal story earn it the unenviable reputation of being the black sheep of the series.  If you got it on the HD collection you'll probably give it a playthrough regardless, but it's definitely eclipsed by every later game in the series, especially its remake (considered one of the franchise's best!).

Developer: Atlus, Lancarse
Publisher: Atlus
Released: 2008, 2023
Platforms: Nintendo DS, Switch, PC

Friday, December 29, 2023

Etrian Mystery Dungeon

Another crossover for the Etrian series, this time with Mystery Dungeon's roguelike gameplay, though it may not be the best fit for a crossover - roguelikes are generally built as single-character romps, so having a full party accompanying you throughout feels a touch unwieldy.  Particularly as enemies will almost always target your weakest characters by preference (like your squishy mages and healers) and will power up on scoring a successful kill, proving a much greater threat to the rest of your party.  Your fighters and mages will generally attack of their own accord unless you choose to take all their turns manually, though that does significantly slow down the action, and of course having multiple characters around makes it much easier to trigger traps as you move about (though other characters will at least avoid them automatically once they're uncovered).  You do at least have the ability to swap between party members and assign skills to hotkeys with combinations of buttons, though it takes some adapting.  The formula does work fairly well once you adapt to it, though in all honestly I'd rather just play an Etrian or a proper roguelike instead of a strange hybrid of the two.  A sentiment seemingly echoed by many who played it, as it didn't sell well enough for Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 to be brought outside of Japan.

Developer: Spike Chunsoft
Publisher: Atlus
Released: 2015
Platforms: Nintendo 3DS

Wednesday, December 27, 2023

Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl

 A remake of the original Etrian Odyssey, with several new features added - 3D models for monsters, multiple options for difficulty, some features to streamline the action (like fast-traveling through completed floors), some new enemy types, faster animations and combat, and most substantially, a new alternate story mode with new areas to explore, quite a bit of voice acting and several pre-defined characters and new story scenes, as well as two new classes exclusive to that mode (Highlander and Gunner).  Basically, the original EO with some significant upgrades and new content added.  The only real hangup is that there's only one save slot available, so you can't keep a separate save for the Classic mode and for the Story mode - you have to delete your progress in one to start the other.  That aside, it's classic dungeon crawling action with modern accomodations to trim down on the tedious aspects of its '80s bretheren; if that sounds good to you, Etrian Odyssey Untold is worthy of your time.  


Developer: Atlus
Publisher: Atlus
Released: 2013
Platforms: Nintendo 3DS

Thursday, April 5, 2018

Etrian Odyssey

A relatively slow-starting franchise for Atlus, Etrian Odyssey was built as an old-school dungeon crawling experience that recalls the experience of numerous 80's franchises to a T.  But does a game like this still hold any appeal today, or does it attempt to resurrect a type of game that should have remained in the past?


While most JRPGs can trace their roots back to a common source - Wizardry, Ultima, the Bard's Tale, and other early RPG franchises released on various computer platforms in the 1980s - few of them still bear much resemblance to that format of gameplay at all.  Most are no longer viewed from a first person-perspective, battles tend to be smaller in scope (with no more than five or so enemies in any encounter, whereas Wizardry-likes could easily put the player against a dozen or more) and overall being more of a story-driven, cinematic experience than one centered on exploration, finding loot and powering up characters.  These elements still exist, of course, but they generally take a backseat to the storytelling aspect.

Etrian Odyssey, on the other hand, is an unashamed callback to the early days of role-playing games.  There is little in the way of characterization and only a threadbare plot throughout, characters are all generated by the player and must conform to a handful of archetypal classes - Landsknecht (Fighter), Alchemist (Mage), Medic (Cleric), etc. - and animation in the game is relatively minimal, with virtually every character, enemy and foe alike represented by a single static sprite.  While there is some customization afforded to the player in the skills they can pick for a particular class (such as specializing in a particular type of weapon or spell element), this is very much a game built on the standards of 1980s gaming.  Some other, less-savory elements creep in as well, like rather slow character movement and somewhat lengthy combat animations that cannot be skipped, which get just a touch annoying when you end up seeing them thousands of times over the course of the game.

Also similar to games like Wizardry, nearly all of the game's action takes place within a single, sprawling dungeon comprising 30 floors - 25 for the main game, and an extra five containing a postgame boss that requires a very heavily-trained party.  Throughout each floor, the player encounters not only progressively stronger enemies, but a variety of subquests, traps, hidden passages and bosses - both in the form of minibosses named "FOEs" that patrol the map (and generally are so strong that they must be avoided at first), and designated floor bosses that will bar their progress until they power up enough to defeat them.  The game's overall design is also heavily based on classic norms - one can only save in towns or at very specific points at the beginning of each five-floor segment of the dungeon, which means that you tend to do an awful lot of backtracking as your resources run thin, and may end up redoing large segments of the dungeon from scratch if you get caught by an FOE.  Much emphasis is also put on the grinding element - not just in terms of levels, but by collecting loot from enemies to sell at a shop in order to earn money and unlock new equipment, which in turn gives your party better odds to reach even further into the dungeon.

One clever touch is that the game includes a minimap, but unlike most games of this type, it is not filled in automatically - instead, the player must draw it in themselves on the DS's bottom screen, using the stylus to fill in walls, mark traps and chests, and indicate enemy locations and patrol routes.  Indeed, even the game's first quest requires the player to create a mostly-complete map of the dungeon's first floor before they are allowed to proceed deeper in, getting them used to this mechanic.  A clever throwback to the early days of CRPGs, where the similar-looking dungeons and lack of integrated mapping features meant that players would often draw out their own maps on graph paper.

This is not to say that the game is completely stuck in the past, as some more modern elements creep in.  One prominent addition is that player can retire existing characters in order to create new ones, with some residual stats and levels carrying over from the old character and allowing the new character to reach new heights of power that their old ones simply could not, somewhat similar to the Reincarnation mechanic in the Disgaea games.  If a particular skill loadout proves too detrimental, the player also has the option of allowing a character to "rest" in order to reset their skills.  This comes at a price, however - the character loses five experience levels each time they do this, and considering how long those take to build up in this game, there is a strong incentive to get the loadout right the first time through.  The game's score is also provided by perennial favorite Yuzo Koshiro, and as per his standards, it is quite excellent throughout.

In the end, Etrian Odyssey accomplishes what it sets out to do, creating an old-school dungeon crawler experience reminiscent of games like Wizardry, Might and Magic and Bard's Tale in almost every respect.  Fans of that genre - and all of the frustrating elements that come with them - will probably have some fun with Etrian Odyssey, but those more used to a smoother gameplay experience less centered on grinding and trial-and-error may want to give it a pass.  Or go for one of the later entries or remakes in the series instead, which feature a much more streamlined and smooth experience overall.

 


Developer: Atlus, Lancarse
Publisher: Atlus
Platform: Nintendo DS
Released: 2007, 2023
Recommended version: The original version is available on Nintendo DS, as well as getting an HD port on Steam in 2023 alongside 2 and 3; oddly it's cheaper to buy them as a bundle (for $80) than to buy them all separately for $40 each on Steam.  The first and second games were also remade on the Nintendo 3DS as "Etrian Odyseey Untold", featuring alternate story modes with predefined characters, 3D models and several other quality of life improvements.